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I brought the mistake to the seller's attention, and got a message that simply said "thank you", but 2.5 hours later the listing still has not been corrected.

Someone could be in for a (relatively) expensive lesson...
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  • ILikeMercsILikeMercs Posts: 1,392 ✭


    << <i> I HAVE ACQUIRED THIS LARGE CENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF AUCTION AND HATE TO PASS IT ON. >>




    huh?
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  • bigmansam88bigmansam88 Posts: 1,209
    Is there even a coin in the holder?














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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great photo image

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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there even a coin in the slab?The slab looks empty and seems to indicate fair details,corroded.
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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I brought the mistake to the seller's attention >>



    To what mistake are you referring?
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Where is coin?


    There are bids. This means that optimism is not dead in America!

  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I brought the mistake to the seller's attention >>



    To what mistake are you referring? >>



    FA != Fine

    The NCS slab says fair details, not fine details as is plastered all over the auction. Slight difference...
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  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭
    That slab is not 214 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

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  • bigmansam88bigmansam88 Posts: 1,209
    I'm still not convinced that there's a coin in the slab image
  • oxy8890oxy8890 Posts: 1,416 ✭
    He added this at the bottom of the listing:

    I have made a mistake, the coin should be graded fair and not fine. If you wish to cancel your bid it would not be a problem. Just let me know and I will end the sale. This is still an extremely rare coin
    Best Regards,

    Rob


    "Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."

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  • oxy8890oxy8890 Posts: 1,416 ✭
    THE GUESS WORK HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY WITH THE NCS GRADE, ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED GRADING SERVICES GRADING THIS COIN TO HAVE FINE DETAILS.
    A COUPLE OF PHOTOS ARE INCLUDED SO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THE PICTURES AS THEY ARE OF THE COIN YOU WILL RECEIVE. GRADE IT YOURSELF.


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    Best Regards,

    Rob


    "Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."

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  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    I see no coin. image I think its an empty slab he's selling!
    "It is what it is."
  • micmtmicmt Posts: 671
    If theres a coin then it must be just a slick brown disk. Though it could just be an empty slab he is selling as rare image
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  • DabigkahunaDabigkahuna Posts: 3,419


    FA Details
    Corroded

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  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Well, at least he amended the listing.

    So the million dollar question: Does a FA02 with problems effectively become a P01?... or lower? image
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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks like graded air.

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  • ccmorganccmorgan Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    I thought I was bad with pics. With NCS I wonder it you can even read the date with the naked eye? That is IF there is a coin in the slab.
    Love the 1885-CC Morgan
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>The seller pulled the listing with a credible explanation, so you guys are bashing him for nothing. >>



    That's typical around here.image
  • ResRes Posts: 1,086


    << <i>The seller pulled the listing with a credible explanation, so you guys are bashing him for nothing. >>



    Other than the fact that there is no coin in the holder.
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The seller pulled the listing with a credible explanation, so you guys are bashing him for nothing. >>



    Other than the fact that there is no coin in the holder. >>



    You have the holder in your hand??
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Better pics but it's also a misleading listing:

    another from the same seller

    And what a return policy, as long as you never opened the package to see the item: image

    RETURN POLICY

    UNOPENED PACKAGES RETURNED WITHIN 3 DAYS.
    Ed
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The seller pulled the listing with a credible explanation, so you guys are bashing him for nothing. >>



    What credible explanation?!? This?!?

    I have made a mistake, the coin should be graded fair and not fine.

    Or is it the implicit explanation that there never was a coin pictured in the first place?

    This person is giving me ideas for chapter 4 of my eBay photography essentials. Provide two shots of the front of your slab. One further away than the other, but both so dark you cannot see the coin. Oh yeah, permanent marker directly on the slab is a nice touch. Who needs labels?
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭
    Looks to me like an honest mistake and of course the people here are going nuts screaming foul. You guys need to relax. I don't understand the arguments that there was no coin pictured? Or there's nothing in the slab? It's pretty clear there's a coin in there. It's FR-02 details, what are you expecting?

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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's FR-02 details, what are you expecting? >>



    I'll spell it out. The auction is for a coin. I see no coin. This slab mentions an issue, corrosion. Now, corrosion can be a small blob near the rim that you cannot see. Or corrosion can be a covering of green Andromeda Strain. I've purchased 'details' coins where the specific details do, in fact, matter.

    It's also allegedly a cent from 1794, so it seems like this is important stuff. Even a beaten up worn one could be 'nice' or 'hellishly ugly'. My guess is on the latter. It may be so hideous that we all collectively cannot actually see it.

    I expect to see the coin. Otherwise this is a bad situation and simply screams "Item Significantly Not As Described".

    Same with the other item. It's a 'details-scratched' coin. If the picture is so poor that there is no remote possibility to see even the largest scratch, then yep, I see a problem. The reverse of this coin is not visible.

    I don't think it is my expectations that are a problem.

    As I said, the fact that there are bidders reassures me that there are still terminal optimists in this world.

    Saying that you are pretty sure that there is a coin in there?!? What image are you looking at? This is what I see. A slab, no coin.

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    Is today 'alternate universe' day? I can play that.

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  • tmcsr69tmcsr69 Posts: 1,307 ✭


    << <i>Is there even a coin in the holder?

    I wrote the guy and told him I could not see a coin and asked for a better pic. He replied that he had a crappy camera and could not do any better.












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    Crazy old man from Missouri
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    If that was a mistake, what about the other cent?

    It says: Grade: AU 50 (in the listing)

    But the blurry pic of slab says AU50 DETAILS SCRATCHED.
    The default pic is too blurry to read but you can read it in the other pic.

    Then he says:

    "THE ONLY REASON IT DOES NOT GRADE MINT STATE IS BECAUSE IT HAS A COUPLE SMALL SCRATCHES ON THE CHEEK."

    A grade of AU 50 DETAILS doesn't mean that it was mint state, it means if you ignored the scratch the coin has details of an AU 50.
    If it said NET AU 50 that means the coin would be higher without the damage.


    Another listing








    Ed
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>The seller pulled the listing with a credible explanation, so you guys are bashing him for nothing. >>



    Other than the fact that there is no coin in the holder. >>



    You have the holder in your hand?? >>




    Stay off crack....It's bad for your vision....image

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